Comments on: Is the gallery system weak? < Deep Thought Thursday https://dy-online.com/gallery-weak-dtt/ Trusted Art Business Coaching and Consulting Sun, 01 May 2022 03:12:35 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.3 By: Karine Swenson https://dy-online.com/gallery-weak-dtt/#comment-15138 Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:22:52 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=10515#comment-15138 This is such an interesting discussion. Thanks, Alyson, for posting this. Ellen, you sound like the kind of gallery owner I would like to work with. I, too, used to have my own successful gallery, but I closed it in order to devote fully to my own art. (We also moved, so I wasn’t able to continue in the same location.) I have been searching for quality gallery representation since my own gallery closed. There seems to be an odd notion floating around that selling art is easy, and that you don’t have to have any knowledge of art in order to sell it. Galleries that treat their artists badly are just as guilty of ruining artist/gallery relationships as unprofessional artists are. When I found myself unable to find gallery owners who would sell my work, I began working on ways to sell it myself. I would much prefer to work with galleries, but I’m not willing to starve while I am looking for good gallery representation. The best galleries never seem to be looking for new artists, but “new” and “emerging” artists need representation too. I know a lot of this is due to the economy.
The biggest thing for all of us to remember, I think, is that what happens between artists and galleries is a relationship. Just like all other relationships, it takes work. Pointing fingers and placing blame are pretty unproductive. So many times I have heard artists complain about galleries, and conversely, heard gallery owners complain about artists. Artists and galleries both have the same goals: to sell art and develop an artist’s career. That is our common ground, and I find it helpful to remember that.
In my humble opinion, galleries play a vital role, since nothing will EVER replace seeing art in person. I think we often overestimate the virtual world. What I do is physical (painting), and it is best experienced in the physical world. I also would like the galleries to be the ones promoting my work, so I have more time to paint. I realize this model isn’t for all artists, but it is the vision I have for myself.
Best wishes to all of you in 2013, and thanks for chiming in to this discussion!

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By: Linda Blondheim https://dy-online.com/gallery-weak-dtt/#comment-15137 Fri, 25 May 2012 12:43:48 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=10515#comment-15137 I find the comment that serious artists will take the gallery route and not want to be bothered with selling their art to be slightly offensive. No one is more serious about their art than I, with 30+ years as a professional artist. I make my living from my art and in the last five years I have marketed my own work. I used to show in galleries around the SE, but in 2009, many of them closed. I never replaced them. I find it easier to be the one in charge of my own career, not being dependent on others to do so. I opened a retail studio in a loft above a gallery and I have done well, along with my other marketing online.
Our culture has changed and certainly since 2009. People are more casual in their lifestyle now. It is easy to connect with artists directly. Most of my collectors have no interest in the “artsy,gallery scene”. I find the relationships I make with collectors to be very satisfying. Many of them become personal friends and supporters. That was never possible as a gallery artist. My life is richer as an artist through these friendships.

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By: Ellen https://dy-online.com/gallery-weak-dtt/#comment-15136 Sat, 06 Aug 2011 16:23:36 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=10515#comment-15136 Robert Bean. Online images of paintings NEVER accurately depict them because no matter how good the process is putting them up online, they're still reduced to the web's 72dpi and every monitor shows them differently. Every time I put a painting image up even in an email, I remind people that what they're seeing on their monitor will look somewhat different from the original. Unless you can control what monitors people are using, you can never totally control the way your art will look online. We see our website as a brochure for the gallery. Most of our buyers have either been in our gallery or some of our other artists' works in person somewhere else, then found us online. Sometimes why we get the sale is as simple as we give excellent customer service and the word spreads.]]> In reply to Robert Bean.

Online images of paintings NEVER accurately depict them because no matter how good the process is putting them up online, they’re still reduced to the web’s 72dpi and every monitor shows them differently. Every time I put a painting image up even in an email, I remind people that what they’re seeing on their monitor will look somewhat different from the original. Unless you can control what monitors people are using, you can never totally control the way your art will look online. We see our website as a brochure for the gallery. Most of our buyers have either been in our gallery or some of our other artists’ works in person somewhere else, then found us online. Sometimes why we get the sale is as simple as we give excellent customer service and the word spreads.

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By: Robert Bean https://dy-online.com/gallery-weak-dtt/#comment-15135 Sat, 06 Aug 2011 16:02:29 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=10515#comment-15135 Sari Grove. I would think it depends somewhat on the art you are viewing. Some art translates well into a flattened online image. Some doesn't. You can't really get an understanding of scale or a sense of in the round with sculpture online. Some paintings lose textures in translation from reality to digital. And color matching isn't always exact. That's why seeing the real thing will still be better (at least for now) than seeing the digital image of it (unless it was created in a digital format to begin with, but that's a whole 'nother discussion).]]> In reply to Sari Grove.

I would think it depends somewhat on the art you are viewing. Some art translates well into a flattened online image. Some doesn’t. You can’t really get an understanding of scale or a sense of in the round with sculpture online. Some paintings lose textures in translation from reality to digital. And color matching isn’t always exact. That’s why seeing the real thing will still be better (at least for now) than seeing the digital image of it (unless it was created in a digital format to begin with, but that’s a whole ‘nother discussion).

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By: Sari Grove https://dy-online.com/gallery-weak-dtt/#comment-15134 Sat, 06 Aug 2011 00:42:36 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=10515#comment-15134 Well, yes…I’ve been thinking about this alot lately…Mainly about: ” What is seeing the art?”…Like, I mean, in the past, you had to go to a gallery to see the work…It was really really hard to see the work any other way…I’ve been wondering, is seeing the art kind of like seeing a movie? You see a movie & well, now you’ve seen it…You ‘got’ the message…if the art has a message, then can you get the message by seeing it online? yes, I think, often…So by making the art seeable online, does that take away the need to possess it? Even in the past, if you saw a work in person, that seeing was so transitory that it might have pushed the viewer into a purchase…But if you can see the work whenever you feel the need, online, does that take away the push? Does this indicate that artists & galleries should be more judicious in what they show online? Or should they be charging admission to view works online? Like for example, we have the AbEx show going on at the AGO…Could there be an online ‘show’ that you could pay for to see the whole thing from your home computer, if say you were disabled or otherwise homebound, lazy or live far away? I would pay to see an international show online, would you?

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By: Amy Guidry https://dy-online.com/gallery-weak-dtt/#comment-15133 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:42:24 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=10515#comment-15133 If galleries want to be a contender, they’ve got to get in the game. Nowadays people are using google, facebook, etc. so if they are looking for a particular type of art, they can find it online. Not only that, but they can “get to know” or feel like they know the artist by following their blog, tweets, facebook posts, etc. I see galleries that don’t even have websites (!?!) much less a facebook page, etc. Some actually have blogs, but they don’t update them! Or they don’t make any mention of news regarding their artists- awards, interviews, etc. People need to know this stuff! People want to know the artist behind the art and the best way to do that other than going to an opening is to go online. I’m an artist, and even I use the internet to meet other artists, including those in my area.
I’ve also seen that some middle market galleries are following the footsteps of blue chip ones in that they have the cold, “white box” mentality. Being selective about your collectors is something they can get away with due to their status. However, most galleries don’t have that clout and should be friendly to all that come in their gallery. I know this isn’t everyone, but I’ve been in galleries all over the place in which I walk in, smile, and am given a cold stare in return and then ignored the rest of the time or watched as if I’m going to steal something. How do these people expect to make sales when they treat potential customers (I do buy art…) like dirt? Again, I know this isn’t everyone, but galleries really need to get to know their customers and help the customers get to know them as well (and get rid of this intimidating stigma!).

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By: Ellen https://dy-online.com/gallery-weak-dtt/#comment-15132 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 18:37:59 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=10515#comment-15132 Janice Tanton. I think it also has to do with confidence in what you're doing, understanding the worth of your art. Artists are in general very sensitive people. Many are insecure. It's not exactly the easiest line of work to succeed in when an economy is down, but it can be done, and integrity is at the foundation of lasting success. I love what you've expressed. In my artist's statement, I've kept one paragraph the same for many years: “People, other artists, often ask me how I do this or do that. I can’t tell them how to do what I do, because with me it’s not so technical. My advice to artists — people in all walks of life — is to reach deeply within your own heart and soul, then employ what you find in your work. Technique only takes you so far. Great art is honest art. Genuine art resonates.”]]> In reply to Janice Tanton.

I think it also has to do with confidence in what you’re doing, understanding the worth of your art. Artists are in general very sensitive people. Many are insecure. It’s not exactly the easiest line of work to succeed in when an economy is down, but it can be done, and integrity is at the foundation of lasting success. I love what you’ve expressed. In my artist’s statement, I’ve kept one paragraph the same for many years:
“People, other artists, often ask me how I do this or do that. I can’t tell them how to do what I do, because with me it’s not so technical. My advice to artists — people in all walks of life — is to reach deeply within your own heart and soul, then employ what you find in your work. Technique only takes you so far. Great art is honest art. Genuine art resonates.”

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By: Ellen https://dy-online.com/gallery-weak-dtt/#comment-15131 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 18:31:20 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=10515#comment-15131 Wendy Edsall-Kerwin. I was talking to an artist on the West Coast yesterday, 3000 miles from my gallery, who has been selling to galleries across the country for years and does not do any retail. They're still in business, but they're having to be much more accomodating. It's not just where you are; it's everywhere. Art is slow. People are scared. It will improve. He sells a handmade, entirely American made, product that is useful, different kinds of lighting. Those things usually sell consistently because they have a practical purpose. He has a variety of lines. Now stores that used to carry all his lines are carrying maybe one line and ordering in very small quantities. When I opened my gallery, most American artisans had fairly high minimum orders to make it worth their while with billing and packing and shipping, plus production. Now, I can order basically anything I want one at a time with a lot of artists because their sales are so slow. Until banks loosen their hold on their stockpiles of money and start lending to people who want to buy homes more easily (NOT like they were before, but with more normal requirements) and the housing market improves and start lending to small businesses again, I don't know how the economy, i.e. galleries can succeed to the degree they were when middle class people either had money to spend or weren't afraid to spend some of what they have. A gallery owner in a town near me that I've been thinking would be a better location for my gallery called me the other day to see how I was doing. It turns out her gallery, which is about six times bigger than mine in a prime location is doing less than mine! When you're struggling you look across the fence where the grass looks greener, but when you stand right on top of it you can see the bare patches between the green. Keep looking for new galleries. It will get better.]]> In reply to Wendy Edsall-Kerwin.

I was talking to an artist on the West Coast yesterday, 3000 miles from my gallery, who has been selling to galleries across the country for years and does not do any retail. They’re still in business, but they’re having to be much more accomodating. It’s not just where you are; it’s everywhere. Art is slow. People are scared. It will improve.
He sells a handmade, entirely American made, product that is useful, different kinds of lighting. Those things usually sell consistently because they have a practical purpose. He has a variety of lines. Now stores that used to carry all his lines are carrying maybe one line and ordering in very small quantities.
When I opened my gallery, most American artisans had fairly high minimum orders to make it worth their while with billing and packing and shipping, plus production. Now, I can order basically anything I want one at a time with a lot of artists because their sales are so slow.
Until banks loosen their hold on their stockpiles of money and start lending to people who want to buy homes more easily (NOT like they were before, but with more normal requirements) and the housing market improves and start lending to small businesses again, I don’t know how the economy, i.e. galleries can succeed to the degree they were when middle class people either had money to spend or weren’t afraid to spend some of what they have.
A gallery owner in a town near me that I’ve been thinking would be a better location for my gallery called me the other day to see how I was doing. It turns out her gallery, which is about six times bigger than mine in a prime location is doing less than mine! When you’re struggling you look across the fence where the grass looks greener, but when you stand right on top of it you can see the bare patches between the green.
Keep looking for new galleries. It will get better.

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By: Wendy Edsall-Kerwin https://dy-online.com/gallery-weak-dtt/#comment-15130 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:55:50 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=10515#comment-15130 Two of my galleries closed last year and this year one of my new galleries realized that my work wasn’t a good fit. Yet another gallery has changed location hoping to get more tourist traffic. I’m not sure if this is just because of the economy or because the owners are learning more about what it takes to make a gallery successful. It doesn’t make me feel too good since my retail sales have been slow too this year.

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By: Rafi Stern https://dy-online.com/gallery-weak-dtt/#comment-15129 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:05:52 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=10515#comment-15129 As an aside I went shopping for furniture last night in a massive multinational superstore (that starts with an “i”) and it reminded me of this discussion. It was so devoid of soul, so consumerized, so aaarrrgghh. Oh for a personal intimate experience of buying from a craftsman or a lover of craft. As another aside see this link http://bbc.in/p5PHCh for a view of how blockbuster art shows are killing “real” art.

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