Comments on: Speak Up on Behalf of Your Art Career https://dy-online.com/speak-up-for-yourself/ Trusted Art Business Coaching and Consulting Sun, 01 May 2022 03:10:32 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.4 By: Carol Barber https://dy-online.com/speak-up-for-yourself/#comment-25336 Mon, 12 May 2014 12:13:56 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=17486#comment-25336 Lucy Chen. Congratulations Jim, I immediately recognized your painting also!]]> In reply to Lucy Chen.

Congratulations Jim, I immediately recognized your painting also!

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By: Chrissy https://dy-online.com/speak-up-for-yourself/#comment-25335 Sun, 11 May 2014 22:42:44 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=17486#comment-25335 Jim Carpenter. Thanks so much Alyson, Julia and Jim, for your feedback. I had only just reconfigured (upped) my prices in recent months, so adding another 50% might be a challenge for me to get my head around initially! Great advice, though, it's helped me to see I'm pricing ahead for purchase, rather than just my costing. Back to the drawing board for another tweak!]]> In reply to Jim Carpenter.

Thanks so much Alyson, Julia and Jim, for your feedback.
I had only just reconfigured (upped) my prices in recent months, so adding another 50% might be a challenge for me to get my head around initially!
Great advice, though, it’s helped me to see I’m pricing ahead for purchase, rather than just my costing.
Back to the drawing board for another tweak!

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By: Alyson Stanfield https://dy-online.com/speak-up-for-yourself/#comment-25334 Sun, 11 May 2014 03:15:06 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=17486#comment-25334 Chrissy. Chrissy: You've received good feedback here. You have 1 price only for your art - regardless of where you sell it. Imagine if someone bought something for $1300 and then saw they could have had it for $1000 on your site. Bad form. 1 price. Build in a 50% commission to all of your pricing as soon as you can.]]> In reply to Chrissy.

Chrissy: You’ve received good feedback here.
You have 1 price only for your art – regardless of where you sell it. Imagine if someone bought something for $1300 and then saw they could have had it for $1000 on your site. Bad form.
1 price. Build in a 50% commission to all of your pricing as soon as you can.

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By: Jim Carpenter https://dy-online.com/speak-up-for-yourself/#comment-25333 Fri, 09 May 2014 16:50:01 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=17486#comment-25333 It does mean that you should sell it for $1000 even though you will only get $700 if it sells out of the gallery. if you want to have $1000 in hand and the gallery is taking 30% you would have to raise your price to just under $1500. If they gallery is taking 50% and you want $1000 in hand after a sale you have to raise the price to $2000. But that should be the price tag on your painting EVERYWHERE. Why would someone buy a painting at a gallery for $2000 when they know they can buy it from you at your studio for $1000 which is what you say is the real value of the painting.
The way I look at it is, I decide my pricing scale – say $2.00 per sq inch – then that is the value of the painting unframed. No matter where I sell it – out of my studio, in a gallery that charges 35% or a gallery that charges 45%, the price is always the same. Think of it as hiring someone to do the work of selling your painting – you pay them for what they do.
It took me a while to understand this, actually. I understand that if I want $1200 for a painting then I have to ask for a lot more than $1200 to get it, unless I only sell off of my website or out of my studio. But, I think $1200 is a good price – and since my sales have been scarce I feel like if someone can sell it for me and it means I pay a 45% commission, that $680 I end up with is a lot more than zero!

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By: Julia R. Berkley https://dy-online.com/speak-up-for-yourself/#comment-25332 Fri, 09 May 2014 12:20:31 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=17486#comment-25332 Chrissy. Just jumping in, though I know Alyson will answer with more info/expertise. The way I've worked this, since I do some work with galleries and consultants who take 50%, is to ALWAYS figure in 50% added on to what I want to get. If a venue only takes 30%, that's great for me! I recently had a sale where the venue only took 25%! That left 25% more for me than my usual expectation. If I sell directly, even better. But that 50% mark-up is something I just have to figure into my calculations right from the beginning. Hope this helps!]]> In reply to Chrissy.

Just jumping in, though I know Alyson will answer with more info/expertise. The way I’ve worked this, since I do some work with galleries and consultants who take 50%, is to ALWAYS figure in 50% added on to what I want to get. If a venue only takes 30%, that’s great for me! I recently had a sale where the venue only took 25%! That left 25% more for me than my usual expectation. If I sell directly, even better. But that 50% mark-up is something I just have to figure into my calculations right from the beginning. Hope this helps!

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By: Chrissy https://dy-online.com/speak-up-for-yourself/#comment-25331 Fri, 09 May 2014 04:27:48 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=17486#comment-25331 Hi Alyson, I have a question.
I noticed you’ve responded to Kathy’s pricing question, saying ‘Absolutely, Kathy. Consistent no matter where you show the work.’
I have a solo show coming up, where the venue takes 30% commission.
Does this mean, if an Artwork is $1000, I should add 30% to the price (e.g. $1300), so I still receive the $$ sum I’ve valued my Artwork at?
Or does it mean, I should sell it at $1000, because that’s what I would sell it for in my website – and I then get $300 less that what it’s worth?
I feel conflicted here, between speaking up on behalf of my Art career, and my prices being consistent, no matter where I show.
Of course, I’ll always make more profit via website sales vs gallery, whereas gallery offers more exposure.
Love your thoughts on this.
Chrissy x

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By: Lucy Chen https://dy-online.com/speak-up-for-yourself/#comment-25330 Fri, 09 May 2014 01:39:53 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=17486#comment-25330 I immediately recognized Jim’s painting!

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By: Rebecca Collins https://dy-online.com/speak-up-for-yourself/#comment-25329 Thu, 08 May 2014 23:08:25 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=17486#comment-25329 Great post. It has me asking myself what other ways I give my power away, I am sure there are many.

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By: Julia R. Berkley https://dy-online.com/speak-up-for-yourself/#comment-25328 Thu, 08 May 2014 17:26:24 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=17486#comment-25328 Alyson Stanfield. Wrote a long reply to this which got deleted somehow, but the upshot was to say I agree with you, and I think they mostly do pay full price. First "donation" one I talked about they offered $200. Last commission I did was $450 for the same size. In addition, they've bought a bunch of my completed work at full asking price (which figures in the 50% consultant's take). I also think they happily pay certain artists megabucks for large signature pieces in prominent areas (vs. the ones I did for treatment rooms, etc.). Which is not to say other hospitals don't ask for free or super-cheap art all the time!]]> In reply to Alyson Stanfield.

Wrote a long reply to this which got deleted somehow, but the upshot was to say I agree with you, and I think they mostly do pay full price. First “donation” one I talked about they offered $200. Last commission I did was $450 for the same size. In addition, they’ve bought a bunch of my completed work at full asking price (which figures in the 50% consultant’s take). I also think they happily pay certain artists megabucks for large signature pieces in prominent areas (vs. the ones I did for treatment rooms, etc.).
Which is not to say other hospitals don’t ask for free or super-cheap art all the time!

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By: Alyson Stanfield https://dy-online.com/speak-up-for-yourself/#comment-25327 Thu, 08 May 2014 16:37:16 +0000 http://artbizsuccess.com/?p=17486#comment-25327 Leah Laker. Leah: It's okay to give away art - as long as people know the REAL VALUE of it. That you educate them. And that they know it's a 1-time deal.]]> In reply to Leah Laker.

Leah: It’s okay to give away art – as long as people know the REAL VALUE of it. That you educate them. And that they know it’s a 1-time deal.

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